80K , 160K Major Servicing Parts ......

macross43 · Post by **macross43** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:21 am

Haik , my car has reach the 2nd major servicing liao.
It seems the post for the parts no. and items for the timing belt change has been deleted....

Anyone still remember the parts no. and the items for the timing belt change ?????

Thanks

Post by **MCDS** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:40 am

Can reference from the Team ES Malaysia members info... They are all ES1 Auto... suitable for you? I dun have the part numbers... but stockists should know la...

Timing Belt: RM120 (Made in Malaysia), RM150 (Made in Japan)
Timing Belt Tensioner: RM140
Oil Seal: RM40 (2 units)
Sensor: RM360 (2 units, TDC Sensor + CKP Sensor)
Water Pump: RM240

Timing Belt

Timing Belt Tensioner

Oil Seal

Sensor

Water Pump

can even see the pics here:

http://myteames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1709

Vacuum · Post by **Vacuum** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:39 am

Going for my 160,000km servicing soon.

Below are the items I changed during 80,000km servicing :
1) Timing Belt (14400-PLM-014)
2) Timing Bearing (14520-PLC-305
3) Compressor Belt (38920-PLC-003)
4) Power Steering Belt (56992-PLM-T01)
5) Washer (94109-14000)
6) Fuel Strainer (16010-S5A-931)
7) Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-010)

For the 160,000km servicing, only intend to change the following instead :
1) Timing Belt (14400-PLM-014)
2) Timing Bearing (14520-PLC-305
3) Compressor Belt (38920-PLC-003)
4) Power Steering Belt (56992-PLM-T01)
5) Washer (94109-14000)
6) No intention to change the Fuel Strainer this time
7) Head Cover packing was "forced" to change during 80,000km servicing even no leak bcos car was under warranty. So, not changing this time.

But when I purchased the items at Waterloo Street this afternoon, the uncle asked why I am not buying :
a) Water Pump
b) Cam Sub Sealing

Bro MCDS gave a link to the TEAMES malaysia forum. They recommend to change, other than the timing belts, :
a) Water Pump
b) Sensors (TDC Sensor + CKP Sensor)
c) Oil Seals (not sure if it is the same as above b) Cam Sub Sealing)

Of course, change everything is the best. But trying to minimize cost.

Question :
1) Do you change your Water Pumps during 160,000km servicing?
2) Do you change the Sensors mentioned in b) above
3) Any Bros here already run more than 200,000km and not changed the waterpump, sensors?

Thanks.

Post by **MCDS** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:24 am

waterpump change is recommended. If your waterpump konk out in-between timing belt change, you will have to remove all your beltings, and do almost all the same operation as timing belt change to access and change the water pump... the workmanship cost will be very high. In other countries where labour is charged by the hour at US$55 per hour, the labour charge can be higher than your part itself...

but this is SE Asia/Malaysia/Sgp... but the labour charge will still be high for this one... it's at least a half day job to do your waterpump... u think the mechanics/workshop will charge you cheep for thier time?

that's why they put water pump change together with the timimg belt change, to do it 'by the way' you can keep the old water pump as a spare in case u wanna sell off your car and pass it to the next owner ... or change back the old one when the current one konks and u gonna sell car soon...

Vacuum · Post by **Vacuum** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:02 pm

Thanks Bro MCDS.
How about the sensors?
Do you know if we need to remove the belting before we can access the sensors?
By the way, can any Bro here recommend workshop for timing belt change and the rough cost?
Thanks.

Post by **MCDS** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:02 pm

Tanly - full set of timing belt change parts minus sensors is around $300+ if memory serves.

Workmanship to do the timing belt change varies from $150-$180 from workshop to workshop. Some bigger workshops with more manpower will charge lower because they can turn around your car within 3-4 hours. Smaller workshops with one-man operation will take up to 5 hours hence a little more pricy.

most workshops can handle la... i go to my friend who is omo... so must let him 'tan jiak' as well lor... if you wan to kao guan him let me know via PM. He does a good job for me, and those I recommend...

others will also do a good job la - Merlin, Riverview, OSK, etc... all will do a good job especially if you sit there and watch them for 3 hours and ask intellegent questions...

hope the above helps.

Vacuum · Post by **Vacuum** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:01 pm

Thanks Bro MCDS.
I got my stuff from Tanly actually.
Thanks for the labour price range too. At least I know what I'm expecting.
Will try to look around Woodlands area for the workshop cos I work around that area.

macross43 · Post by **macross43** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:57 am

Below is some of the photo i taken when i did my 160K last month.

Head Cover Remove. (Nice 16 valve hee hee .....

) Belt on the right is the timing belt.

Timing belt remove and at center is the location of the water pump (removed)

Another view of the Engine ....

The TDC & CKP sensor and the center one is crank timing pulley which work with CKP sensor as a pair to sensor position of the piston. Didn't change it as it cost ard $400+ to replace , but did do some clean and checking.

Cheers .....

Vacuum · Post by **Vacuum** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:41 pm

Hi Bro macross43.
Thanks for the pics.
Since the head cover was removed, I assumed you change :
- Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-010) ?
I think I will also change the water pump.
Tanly selling slightly less than S$100 when I last asked them.
With all the valuable feedback from the Bros here, I somehow decide to change the following :

1) Timing Belt (14400-PLM-014)
2) Timing Bearing (14520-PLC-305
3) Compressor Belt (38920-PLC-003)
4) Power Steering Belt (56992-PLM-T01)
5) Washer (94109-14000)
6) Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-010)
7) Water Pump

Thanks.

macross43 · Post by **macross43** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:34 pm

Bro , best change ur water pump , think is quiet cheap althought when u take out and see maybe in good condition but only less $100 so just change for peace of mind.

As for the packing , i am not sure cos i left it to my mechanic to go buy , i didn't buy all the parts.

My mechanic dismantle all the things and take it to the supplier to compare and buy, so i don't know the parts number. btw u need the belt tensioner so i not sure if it is the same as ur timing bearing. Just comfirm this part.

Just a suggestion it is also good to change all ur oil together this time , like power steering fluid and Auto transmission oil (if urs auto) / manual transmission oil (for manual). When u change ur water pump , u sure need to change the radiator fluid liao so remember to get it too. Get the Pre-mix type so just add in can liao no need additional water. think u need ard 4 to 5 bottles, can't remember liao

Hope thats help

Cheers .....

rOcH · Post by **rOcH** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:20 pm

So helpful

macross43 · Post by **macross43** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:35 pm

rOcH wrote:So helpful

Kana sai .... bro how r u ? long time no c liao .... still busy meh ????

rOcH · Post by **rOcH** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:14 am

macross43 wrote:
rOcH wrote:So helpful
Kana sai .... bro how r u ? long time no c liao .... still busy meh ????

Yup, long time no see. Busy talking cock

Catch up some other time, hard for me to attend meetup nowadays ...

Post by **MCDS** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:37 am

next one downstairs from your place... till near midnite... dun tell me you burning midnite oil again...

Vacuum · Post by **Vacuum** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:55 pm

Vacuum wrote:Hi Bro macross43.
Thanks for the pics.
Since the head cover was removed, I assumed you change :
- Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-010) ?
I think I will also change the water pump.
Tanly selling slightly less than S$100 when I last asked them.
With all the valuable feedback from the Bros here, I somehow decide to change the following :

1) Timing Belt (14400-PLM-014)
2) Timing Bearing (14520-PLC-305
3) Compressor Belt (38920-PLC-003)
4) Power Steering Belt (56992-PLM-T01)
5) Washer (94109-14000)
6) Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-010)
7) Water Pump

Thanks.

Finally got all the items ready for my 160,000km servicing.
Hopefully, these infor can benefit those Brothers going for the same servicing too.

1) Timing Belt (14400-PLM-014) - S$28
2) Compressor Belt (38920-PLC-003) - S$16
3) Power Steering Belt (56992-PLM-T01) - S$16
4) Timing Bearing (14520-PLC-305) - S$65
5) Washer (94109-14000) - S$1.50
6) Packing, Head Cover (12030-PLC-000) - S$15
7) Seal, Spark Plug Tube (12342-P08-004) - S$4.50 x 4
8 ) Washer Head Cover (90442-REA-Z00) - S$$3.50 x 5
9) Oil Seal Timing (38x50x7) - S$6
10) Oil Seal Camshaft (29x45x8) - S$5
11) Pump Comp, Water (19200-PLM-A01) - S$95
12) Honda Long Life Coolant Type 2 (3.85l) - S$40 (will need 4 to 5litres)
13) Engine Oil 5W40 (Mobil 1 from Carrefour) - S$65
14) Green HAMP Oil Filter - S$8

I don't know any workshops. Had been using Wong from Kah Motors (formerly at Jurong but now at LengKee) even after warranty. He told me it's about S$300 +/- in all. Had made an appointment with him Tuesday.

Will update on the final servicing price later.

Cheers.