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Postby civic`esi » Thu May 14, 2009 12:38 pm

garilee wrote:
herong wrote:hi, wish to enquire what are the disadvantages and advantages of having racing cams? how much horses does it boost ?

like wat bro cyrix1976 mentioned, u have to ask yrself wat u want 1st. Generally, extreme cams= more areas to upgrade= more $=more maintenance= poor drivability at low rpms.

Best value for DOHC is the type r cams (NA/turbo). For NA set-up in SOHC, juz go for the stage3 crower.


poison ppl again .. stage 3 not easy to play oso .. if u still wan to carry on coe u can consider lor .. if not better save $ for ur new car :wink:
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Postby Emperorcivic » Fri May 15, 2009 4:10 am

cyrix1976 wrote:
herong wrote:hi, wish to enquire what are the disadvantages and advantages of having racing cams? how much horses does it boost ?


just cam alone will not bring out too much bhp although you will see certain gain, alot of other factor also come in place. to do up a engine is not like some other mod which you can slowly add on.

will prefer you save up and fully understand what you want before you mod. track setup and drag setup is different too. you wouldn't want to have stage 3 or 4 cams for your track setup, too wild. at the same time if you just wanna go for 1/4 mile, then you will not interested in stage 2 cam, too mild for you.

the story will never end................................... ask yourself, what you want
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i totally agree. =)

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Postby bimbo0 » Fri May 15, 2009 4:20 am

killer cams is th way to go for drag !!!
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Postby cyrix1976 » Fri May 15, 2009 10:26 am

bimbo0 wrote:killer cams is th way to go for drag !!!


might not be the way too. depend alot on cam settting. a stage 3 cams can do a good job too. gearbox is 1 factor that you cannot leave out.
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Postby garilee » Fri May 15, 2009 10:56 am

Big cams muz come in a combi or else wont max the potential. for example: big cams need high comp. Big cams+stock engine compression may end up worst than stock cams+stock engine comp.
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Postby herong » Sat May 16, 2009 8:44 pm

just to enquire, crower stage 3 cams gain how much hp? will it make the car difficult to start?

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Postby bradtwy » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:26 pm

garilee wrote:
tanpm wrote:Im intending to swap out my D16Z6 for a B16A block for my 4Dr ESI, the B block comes with the necessary mountings, shift links etc etc.
(1) Care to share any experiences? (2) Like, would the car be unbalanced, wad else would i need to change etc? OR is it even worth it to begin with!
(3) Deal looks like 1.5k with swap. + additional 1k for labour at seller's workshop.

I assume yr car is esi since u are using a d16z6 engine:

1) i dun have experience doing such big non-lta approved mod :roll:

2) As follows:
-undercarriage: esi is almost the same as eg9 (b16 engine) except for the front brakes. Upgrade the front brakes (perludes 282mm are best value) coz ur car will be pushing much higher HP
-exhaust: u need a b series extractor
-engine: u only mentioned engine block. What abt the engine head, gearbox intake manifold, distributor, pwer steering pump, air con, drive shaft, crank pulley etc?
-ecu: u also need a dohc ecu
-engine block numbering?

3) Deal looks cheap as long engine is healthy, its for full swap for plug & play into yr esi, & u ok with the big non-lta approval risk.


the power steering pump, etc etc is necessary when doing a swap? i thought things like air condition, drive shaft etc is similar and doesnt require any changes?
i am actually thinking of changing to a b series from a d series and other than the engine block + head + things attached to the engine like distributor, fuel injectors etc +intake + exhaust + ECU + gearbox + clutch, i thought the rest would still fit. if i plan to swap a b series inside, what else would i need to change apart from what i've listed, and if there's a significant difference in power/driveability/functionality, etc?

thanks in advance as now it seems like my research may not have ended at that.

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Postby garilee » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm

bradtwy wrote:the power steering pump, etc etc is necessary when doing a swap? i thought things like air condition, drive shaft etc is similar and doesnt require any changes?
i am actually thinking of changing to a b series from a d series and other than the engine block + head + things attached to the engine like distributor, fuel injectors etc +intake + exhaust + ECU + gearbox + clutch, i thought the rest would still fit. if i plan to swap a b series inside, what else would i need to change apart from what i've listed, and if there's a significant difference in power/driveability/functionality, etc?

thanks in advance as now it seems like my research may not have ended at that.

1) power steering pump-Same
2) drive shaft-Different
3) Air con compressor-Different (aircon condenser is ok)
4) Gearbox linkage-Different
5) 2 main Radiator pipes-Different
6) flywheel-Different
7) crank pulley-Different
8) alternator-can be reuse but B-series run higher volt supply so best to upgrade
9) Starter-Not sure, have to confirm

If getting a stock b16 then dont waste time & $. the power diff is not worth it. at least a b18c or b20 will be more fun
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Postby cyrix1976 » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:25 pm

garilee wrote:
bradtwy wrote:the power steering pump, etc etc is necessary when doing a swap? i thought things like air condition, drive shaft etc is similar and doesnt require any changes?
i am actually thinking of changing to a b series from a d series and other than the engine block + head + things attached to the engine like distributor, fuel injectors etc +intake + exhaust + ECU + gearbox + clutch, i thought the rest would still fit. if i plan to swap a b series inside, what else would i need to change apart from what i've listed, and if there's a significant difference in power/driveability/functionality, etc?

thanks in advance as now it seems like my research may not have ended at that.

1) power steering pump-Same
2) drive shaft-Different
3) Air con compressor-Different (aircon condenser is ok)
4) Gearbox linkage-Different
5) 2 main Radiator pipes-Different
6) flywheel-Different
7) crank pulley-Different
8) alternator-can be reuse but B-series run higher volt supply so best to upgrade
9) Starter-Not sure, have to confirm

If getting a stock b16 then dont waste time & $. the power diff is not worth it. at least a b18c or b20 will be more fun


suggest to upgrade
1. your brake servo to DC2 or accord.
2. brake rotor to 282, caliper also, kunckle also
3. ARB for front and rear

End of the day, you wanna convert to B-series, you need to get a halfcut, dump the stupid b16 away and get a B18C.

All in all will cost you another $15k-$20k to achieve around 230bhp car.

Might as well upgrade your car. more easy and not afraid TP or LTA.
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Re: Hi

Postby bradtwy » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:48 pm

cyrix1976 wrote:
garilee wrote:
bradtwy wrote:the power steering pump, etc etc is necessary when doing a swap? i thought things like air condition, drive shaft etc is similar and doesnt require any changes?
i am actually thinking of changing to a b series from a d series and other than the engine block + head + things attached to the engine like distributor, fuel injectors etc +intake + exhaust + ECU + gearbox + clutch, i thought the rest would still fit. if i plan to swap a b series inside, what else would i need to change apart from what i've listed, and if there's a significant difference in power/driveability/functionality, etc?

thanks in advance as now it seems like my research may not have ended at that.

1) power steering pump-Same
2) drive shaft-Different
3) Air con compressor-Different (aircon condenser is ok)
4) Gearbox linkage-Different
5) 2 main Radiator pipes-Different
6) flywheel-Different
7) crank pulley-Different
8) alternator-can be reuse but B-series run higher volt supply so best to upgrade
9) Starter-Not sure, have to confirm

If getting a stock b16 then dont waste time & $. the power diff is not worth it. at least a b18c or b20 will be more fun


suggest to upgrade
1. your brake servo to DC2 or accord.
2. brake rotor to 282, caliper also, kunckle also
3. ARB for front and rear

End of the day, you wanna convert to B-series, you need to get a halfcut, dump the stupid b16 away and get a B18C.

All in all will cost you another $15k-$20k to achieve around 230bhp car.

Might as well upgrade your car. more easy and not afraid TP or LTA.


understood guys :D
but i may just undertake this project and see. from there maybe will get a stroker kit and up to 1.8. may i ask whats the difference in the air con compressor and drive shaft?

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Postby bradtwy » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:07 pm

can dc5 gsr 262 brake set fit esi? if i change knuckles as well will it be able to fit?

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Postby cyrix1976 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:39 pm

bradtwy wrote:can dc5 gsr 262 brake set fit esi? if i change knuckles as well will it be able to fit?


dc5 gsr i think is 252 leh. not 262. maybe i make a mistake.
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Postby tyrianius » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:14 pm

Hi there,
can anyone show me the exact look of a front camber for esi?

Does it looks like this?

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I've seen similar stuffs like this. One of which looks similar to this

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so, which is the correct one?
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Postby herong » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:24 pm

question to ask, can i turbocharge engine which is high compression? currently running a d16 on high compression, thanks

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Postby garilee » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:11 pm

tyrianius wrote:Hi there,
can anyone show me the exact look of a front camber for esi?

ESI=> EG. the silver 1 is for EG. U have to reuse yr oem camber bolts
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