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Anyone drove/owned RB1 and RB3 before? (RB1 vs RB3)

Post by carcrazy100 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:23 pm

Hi Guys,

I am looking to get an odyssey and is looking at the RB1 absolute model (Previous version).

The thing is that i have test drove the current RB3 but never had the opportunity to test drove or even commute in RB1 before.

As like I like to check out some things. Hope someone can advise:
1) The ride quality for both is it about the same?
2) I presume engine is the same? base on the specs?
3) Transmission? same?
4) Fuel economy is the same? or RB3 better?
5) Any other major difference? other than more features like Econ Button, etc?

thanks alot.

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Post by Nov » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:51 am

Would like to compare both cars when they are of similar age.
My family have a 9yr KM RB1 and a 5yr KM RB3. Both are non Absolute versions.

I'll try to recall whatever I can when both cars were about 1-2 years old.
Do correct me if I'm wrong :)


1) The ride quality for both is it about the same?
I dun remember either car being more comfy than the other. Currently both models are rather old, the suspension won't be in good condition. Coming to 10years old, the RB1 suspension doesn't really absorb the bump well.

2) I presume engine is the same? base on the specs?
From specs, KM RB1 has 160ponies, KM RB3 has 180 and PI Absolute 200.

3) Transmission? same?
I think its the same 5-speed one. The RB1 has something like a steptronic/semi-auto gear shift while I dun have that in the RB3. Both are KM models, so if you get the PI one it might be different.

4) Fuel economy is the same? or RB3 better?
Didn't check on the RB1...

5) Any other major difference? other than more features like Econ Button, etc?
Both of my family's ODC doesn't have econ button, but the facelifted RB3 has it. Front seat warmers on the RB3.
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Post by rjj » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:41 pm

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Post by blank3t » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:44 pm

Hi

Have driven both RB1 and RB3(current ride) and what I missed most about the RB1 is the steptronic/semi-auto gear shifters. (of course the gear knob on the RB1 looks way cooler too). Have really utilized that a lot. Not really into speeding but just sometimes need to downshift and take on some jokers who just push you the wrong way(especially for safety concerns). Honda must have thought that Hey this is a family car so don't need the extra oomph! Only the JDM Absolute RB3 still comes with the paddle shifters!
LOL the KM salesman selling me the RB3 was really something. When I lamented the loss of the shifters, he told me, "Ya, can still change gear. Can put to 1, then 2. Also, can even select 3 if needed." What a joke!
Unfortunately, its the end of the era for all. You cannot get anymore low slung MPVs like the RB series with the new 2014 Odyssey. :(
My wife could only be persuaded to drive an MPV if it was the RB1 then. Throw in the Mugen kit that KM was offering at that time and she was sold.
To the RB series, a great car

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Post by rjj » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:58 am

Yo bro most of the ody bros in the photo had already switch camp...only one left and came back again.....

cant agree more...one of the best saloon mpv...
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Honda Civic 1.3, Mitsubishi GTI1.6, Honda Civic VTI1.6,
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Post by blank3t » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:48 pm

rjj wrote:Yo bro most of the ody bros in the photo had already switch camp...only one left and came back again.....

cant agree more...one of the best saloon mpv...
Yup. True that Bro RJJ.

Fond memories of the RB1. More than 150km clicked before the change to RB3. Numerous KL trip and a memorable Penang Trip. Except for the Mugen Kit all else stock.
carcrazy100 wrote:Hi Guys,

I am looking to get an odyssey and is looking at the RB1 absolute model (Previous version).
Ok. Let me recall. If I'm not mistaken, the RB1 Absolute models are PI i.e. not brought in by KM. The two models of RB1 that was brought in by KM were badged as EX and EXV. For the RB2, KM badged one of them as the Absolute which were only an Absolute face wise to the uproar of some of the members here(do a search). It did not have the increase power, the suspension, the brakes to name a few.

So, I guess if you were looking for an RB1 Absolute then it probably has to be originally from a PI not KM.

Was tempted to get the RB3 Absolute but did not want the hassle from the PIs and later on. Of course KM does not want to bring it in citing unproven gear paddle shifter issue or whatever. So got stuck with the present RB3. Its still great car though and still a looker. Just don't expect great acceleration.

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Post by rjj » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:11 am

btw, there are no RB2 in sg as RB2 is 4 wheel drive whic only available in jepun only
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Post by blank3t » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:35 pm

Thanks Bro. Always was under the impression that the face-lifted RB1 Odyssey was an RB2. My bad. Thanks for setting me straight, otherwise I'll always think so.
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Post by blur » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:38 pm

Hi Bro,

Am thinking of getting a RB3 to replace my RB1 thats going to be scrapped. Do you know if parts like the coilovers, BBKS , bracings are compatible and can be transferred?

Cheers
blank3t wrote:Hi

Have driven both RB1 and RB3(current ride) and what I missed most about the RB1 is the steptronic/semi-auto gear shifters. (of course the gear knob on the RB1 looks way cooler too). Have really utilized that a lot. Not really into speeding but just sometimes need to downshift and take on some jokers who just push you the wrong way(especially for safety concerns). Honda must have thought that Hey this is a family car so don't need the extra oomph! Only the JDM Absolute RB3 still comes with the paddle shifters!
LOL the KM salesman selling me the RB3 was really something. When I lamented the loss of the shifters, he told me, "Ya, can still change gear. Can put to 1, then 2. Also, can even select 3 if needed." What a joke!
Unfortunately, its the end of the era for all. You cannot get anymore low slung MPVs like the RB series with the new 2014 Odyssey. :(
My wife could only be persuaded to drive an MPV if it was the RB1 then. Throw in the Mugen kit that KM was offering at that time and she was sold.
To the RB series, a great car

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Post by rjj » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:12 am

bro blur

my suggestion go visit all those parts fitted on your ride to check if the parts number are the same....example like ARB which is cusco...under ody RB1 and RB3 does it fall in the same colum.....if yes then it should fit...that goes for the rest...imho
Ford Laser 1.3, Suzuki GTI1.3. Alfa Romero 33 1.7,
Honda Civic 1.3, Mitsubishi GTI1.6, Honda Civic VTI1.6,
Honda Civic SIR1.6, Honda Interga 1.8, Subaru Lagacy RSK2.0,
Honda Odyssey 2.4, JDM EuroR 2.0

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Post by rjj » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:14 am

i clocked 400k plus when i sold my ody..... only replace wear and tear parts...a true workhorse for the family...
blank3t wrote:Thanks Bro. Always was under the impression that the face-lifted RB1 Odyssey was an RB2. My bad. Thanks for setting me straight, otherwise I'll always think so.
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Honda Civic 1.3, Mitsubishi GTI1.6, Honda Civic VTI1.6,
Honda Civic SIR1.6, Honda Interga 1.8, Subaru Lagacy RSK2.0,
Honda Odyssey 2.4, JDM EuroR 2.0

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Post by blank3t » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:53 pm

blur wrote: Am thinking of getting a RB3 to replace my RB1 thats going to be scrapped. Do you know if parts like the coilovers, BBKS , bracings are compatible and can be transferred?
Sorry bro, did not play around unlike other esteem bros here. Exccept for full Mugen Kit for the RB1 and Rims Upgrade for RB3, all else stock.
rjj wrote:i clocked 400k plus when i sold my ody..... only replace wear and tear parts...a true workhorse for the family...
400k! In the words of Darth Vader...Impressive!
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Post by blur » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:48 pm

Thats a good idea, tedious though...but the thought of dekitting is quite troublesome....
Anyway thanks bro
rjj wrote:bro blur

my suggestion go visit all those parts fitted on your ride to check if the parts number are the same....example like ARB which is cusco...under ody RB1 and RB3 does it fall in the same colum.....if yes then it should fit...that goes for the rest...imho

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Post by rjj » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:56 pm

bro is tedious but it all worth the trouble....if you enjoy ur RB1 handle and all the safety aspect for the transfer...

enjoy ur switching...however the easiest way out is to change all brand new loh...hee

blur wrote:Thats a good idea, tedious though...but the thought of dekitting is quite troublesome....
Anyway thanks bro
rjj wrote:bro blur

my suggestion go visit all those parts fitted on your ride to check if the parts number are the same....example like ARB which is cusco...under ody RB1 and RB3 does it fall in the same colum.....if yes then it should fit...that goes for the rest...imho
Ford Laser 1.3, Suzuki GTI1.3. Alfa Romero 33 1.7,
Honda Civic 1.3, Mitsubishi GTI1.6, Honda Civic VTI1.6,
Honda Civic SIR1.6, Honda Interga 1.8, Subaru Lagacy RSK2.0,
Honda Odyssey 2.4, JDM EuroR 2.0

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