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e240 wrote:I think the 4T factoryline is for bikes.

Sting3Rhea wrote:

e240 wrote:I think the 4T factoryline is for bikes.

Factory line for bikes correct.

Falcon75 wrote:

Sting3Rhea wrote:

e240 wrote:I think the 4T factoryline is for bikes.

Factory line for bikes correct.

Thanks for the response, guys.

I was told by the salesperson for factoryline that the same engine oil can be used for cars too, since the rev for bikes can go higher than cars. Some of his customers actually used the engine oil in their cars.

True? Any one tried that?

e240 wrote:Well, you certainly won't kill your engine using oils for bikes, however, Bike oils usually may not contain friction modifiers and/or contains additiives to cater for wet clutches which may or may not be suitable for cars.

Then again, its also been argued that Bike Oils do contain more anti wear additives compared to car oils because I think they lag behind cars in the API standards(??) mostly dues to car oils going green...

So i will say this, if you're comfortable and you find it good, there's no good reason why you can't use bike oils (4T only) in cars...

Falcon75 wrote:

e240 wrote:Well, you certainly won't kill your engine using oils for bikes, however, Bike oils usually may not contain friction modifiers and/or contains additiives to cater for wet clutches which may or may not be suitable for cars.

Then again, its also been argued that Bike Oils do contain more anti wear additives compared to car oils because I think they lag behind cars in the API standards(??) mostly dues to car oils going green...

So i will say this, if you're comfortable and you find it good, there's no good reason why you can't use bike oils (4T only) in cars...

Thanks for the info, bro e240.

When you mention that Bike Oil contain more anti wear additives, isn't that better compared to normal engine oil though at the expense of being less 'green'?

Any bro have actually tried using Motul 4T factoryline on their cars? Any feedback appreciated.

Thanks.

Oil for bikes/ Oil for cars. What is the difference ?
Most of 4 stroke bike gearboxes use engine oil as a lube. To reduce wear and increase gearbox life, we include gear additives into bike 4 stroke engine oils. And the oil must not perturb clutch efficiency.
For bike oils, the JASO (Japanese manufacturer association) is very concerned by the clutch sliding problem so they issued some requirements and standards.
Motul 5100 and 3000 oils for 4 stroke engine bikes are JASO MA approved. To complete that, Motul performed the JASO T904 tests on 300V's to be sure that 300V's work properly without any clutch problem.
On the other hand, for cars, there is no gearbox or clutch problem therefore we can use for example friction modifier additives to reduce friction into the engine. This will provide power output improvement.
For bikes we strongly recommend to use bike oils and for cars, we strongly recommend to use car oils.

What is the difference between 4T engine oils for cars and 4T oils for motorcycles?
The main difference between the two vehicles is that the majority of four-stroke motorcycle gearboxes are lubricated by the engine oil. In order to reduce pinion wear and increase the life of the gearbox, MOTUL incorporates 'Extreme Pressure' additives to motorcycle 4T oils.

Sting3Rhea wrote: I'd <3 to try cos my new oil change at 6k is nearing soon, used it on bikes before and it sure delights you when you see the engine oil during the oil change interval would change color from green to dark green, rather than the usual gold to black.

I dunno if the green colour of the oil means anything though, but used in racebikes that rev up to 14k last time, no problem.

http://www.motul.fr/uk/conseils/faq/reponses.html

Oil for bikes/ Oil for cars. What is the difference ?
Most of 4 stroke bike gearboxes use engine oil as a lube. To reduce wear and increase gearbox life, we include gear additives into bike 4 stroke engine oils. And the oil must not perturb clutch efficiency.
For bike oils, the JASO (Japanese manufacturer association) is very concerned by the clutch sliding problem so they issued some requirements and standards.
Motul 5100 and 3000 oils for 4 stroke engine bikes are JASO MA approved. To complete that, Motul performed the JASO T904 tests on 300V's to be sure that 300V's work properly without any clutch problem.
On the other hand, for cars, there is no gearbox or clutch problem therefore we can use for example friction modifier additives to reduce friction into the engine. This will provide power output improvement.
For bikes we strongly recommend to use bike oils and for cars, we strongly recommend to use car oils.

What is the difference between 4T engine oils for cars and 4T oils for motorcycles?
The main difference between the two vehicles is that the majority of four-stroke motorcycle gearboxes are lubricated by the engine oil. In order to reduce pinion wear and increase the life of the gearbox, MOTUL incorporates 'Extreme Pressure' additives to motorcycle 4T oils.

300V Power!

Falcon75 wrote:

Sting3Rhea wrote: I'd <3 to try cos my new oil change at 6k is nearing soon, used it on bikes before and it sure delights you when you see the engine oil during the oil change interval would change color from green to dark green, rather than the usual gold to black.

I dunno if the green colour of the oil means anything though, but used in racebikes that rev up to 14k last time, no problem.

http://www.motul.fr/uk/conseils/faq/reponses.html

Oil for bikes/ Oil for cars. What is the difference ?
Most of 4 stroke bike gearboxes use engine oil as a lube. To reduce wear and increase gearbox life, we include gear additives into bike 4 stroke engine oils. And the oil must not perturb clutch efficiency.
For bike oils, the JASO (Japanese manufacturer association) is very concerned by the clutch sliding problem so they issued some requirements and standards.
Motul 5100 and 3000 oils for 4 stroke engine bikes are JASO MA approved. To complete that, Motul performed the JASO T904 tests on 300V's to be sure that 300V's work properly without any clutch problem.
On the other hand, for cars, there is no gearbox or clutch problem therefore we can use for example friction modifier additives to reduce friction into the engine. This will provide power output improvement.
For bikes we strongly recommend to use bike oils and for cars, we strongly recommend to use car oils.

What is the difference between 4T engine oils for cars and 4T oils for motorcycles?
The main difference between the two vehicles is that the majority of four-stroke motorcycle gearboxes are lubricated by the engine oil. In order to reduce pinion wear and increase the life of the gearbox, MOTUL incorporates 'Extreme Pressure' additives to motorcycle 4T oils.

300V Power!

Thanks for the info, Bro Sting3Rhea

Manage to have a look at my car manual during lunch and it states that the min. specs for engine oil supported for my car is API SL or better.

Check up Motul 300V 4T Factoryline 5W30 specs and it is API SL and JASO MA. So it should be okay for my car.

Bro Sting3Rhea, you are going to try using Motul 300V 4T Factoryline for your next oil change? Keep us posted on the result

grandpa-VTEC wrote:300v can get 2 litres @ $55

grandpa-VTEC wrote:300v can get 2 litres @ $55