For street race camshaft.. TODA A2 or A3 camshaft?

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:59 pm

Need help from all the bros.. Toda A2 cams or A3 cams? which is more power? any other advised cams?

hifi1 · Post by **hifi1** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:25 am

Power no need to say sure A3 lah...tune it well very nice drive plus power...

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:27 am

hifi1 wrote:Power no need to say sure A3 lah...tune it well very nice drive plus power...

A3 sure? they say A2 has more power because the range of vtec is longer because of the angle.. im confuse.. some people say A2 good.. and A3 not good, but logicly sure A3 has more power, if not TODA wouldnt make it right? hehehe..

1110 · Post by **1110** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:04 am

Bluecomet wrote:
hifi1 wrote:Power no need to say sure A3 lah...tune it well very nice drive plus power...

A3 sure? they say A2 has more power because the range of vtec is longer because of the angle.. im confuse.. some people say A2 good.. and A3 not good, but logicly sure A3 has more power, if not TODA wouldnt make it right? hehehe..

Sorry not v good in this

... I am sure A2 and A3 need to change the injector spring and stuffs. Does the milder A1 cam need to replace internal engine springs or stuff?

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:16 am

1110 wrote:
Bluecomet wrote:
hifi1 wrote:Power no need to say sure A3 lah...tune it well very nice drive plus power...

A3 sure? they say A2 has more power because the range of vtec is longer because of the angle.. im confuse.. some people say A2 good.. and A3 not good, but logicly sure A3 has more power, if not TODA wouldnt make it right? hehehe..
Sorry not v good in this ... I am sure A2 and A3 need to change the injector spring and stuffs. Does the milder A1 cam need to replace internal engine springs or stuff?

is there any milder A1 cam meh? thot TODA start with A2 only..

hifi1 · Post by **hifi1** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:00 am

I'm using A2, the reason i dont use A3 is becos I dont want CEL light with Hondata at that time and good idling at city driving.But if u want to track or race, then A3 with hondata is the best bang for the bucks. U need a good tuner, dont tune too much power at high rev and everything will be good.

A2 is good but more for spirited city driving, cannot really touch A3 when on track. but i will not trade by A2 for A3, because u buy what u need, dont buy what other people say hehehehe

BTW a few yrs ago, fastest time Cl7r at Sepang clocked by A2 with spoon leh hehehehe

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:53 am

hifi1 wrote:I'm using A2, the reason i dont use A3 is becos I dont want CEL light with Hondata at that time and good idling at city driving.But if u want to track or race, then A3 with hondata is the best bang for the bucks. U need a good tuner, dont tune too much power at high rev and everything will be good.

A2 is good but more for spirited city driving, cannot really touch A3 when on track. but i will not trade by A2 for A3, because u buy what u need, dont buy what other people say hehehehe

BTW a few yrs ago, fastest time Cl7r at Sepang clocked by A2 with spoon leh hehehehe

Thanks bro for the advice... i was in doubt about getting the A2 or A3 cams.. seems like A2 cams is good for street race then.. i heard it has low, mid and top end all together while A3 there is no low and mid end... but top end is good..

hifi1 · Post by **hifi1** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:41 pm

Bluecomet wrote:
hifi1 wrote:I'm using A2, the reason i dont use A3 is becos I dont want CEL light with Hondata at that time and good idling at city driving.But if u want to track or race, then A3 with hondata is the best bang for the bucks. U need a good tuner, dont tune too much power at high rev and everything will be good.

A2 is good but more for spirited city driving, cannot really touch A3 when on track. but i will not trade by A2 for A3, because u buy what u need, dont buy what other people say hehehehe

BTW a few yrs ago, fastest time Cl7r at Sepang clocked by A2 with spoon leh hehehehe
Thanks bro for the advice... i was in doubt about getting the A2 or A3 cams.. seems like A2 cams is good for street race then.. i heard it has low, mid and top end all together while A3 there is no low and mid end... but top end is good..

A3 no low and mid?? tink tuner no good hahahaha remember dont tune for max power at high end cos u will lose the low and mid, doesnt matter what cam...

Waterbottle · Post by **Waterbottle** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:18 pm

This's a gd thread. Me too is thinking of getting the toda cam.
I don't wan to lose my low end so my airbox n exhaust r still stock. My next poison is definitely Cam.

So does the fuel consumption goes up with cam? I was told u can tune it that the fuel consumption is the same as b4 unless u keep on vtecing.

Read on a car mag tat Honda discontinuing the Europe civic type r and all future r versions due to emissions concern. I luv accord euro r and most prob will drive it till as long as I can....

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:47 pm

Waterbottle wrote:This's a gd thread. Me too is thinking of getting the toda cam.
I don't wan to lose my low end so my airbox n exhaust r still stock. My next poison is definitely Cam.

So does the fuel consumption goes up with cam? I was told u can tune it that the fuel consumption is the same as b4 unless u keep on vtecing.

Read on a car mag tat Honda discontinuing the Europe civic type r and all future r versions due to emissions concern. I luv accord euro r and most prob will drive it till as long as I can....

i asked from TODA racing and they recommend TODA A2 is much more good than any other cams.. because of the duration of VTEC is longer due to the angle of the cams.. so no doubt about it, just get A2 cams..

Bluecomet · Post by **Bluecomet** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:50 pm

hifi1 wrote:
Bluecomet wrote:
hifi1 wrote:I'm using A2, the reason i dont use A3 is becos I dont want CEL light with Hondata at that time and good idling at city driving.But if u want to track or race, then A3 with hondata is the best bang for the bucks. U need a good tuner, dont tune too much power at high rev and everything will be good.

A2 is good but more for spirited city driving, cannot really touch A3 when on track. but i will not trade by A2 for A3, because u buy what u need, dont buy what other people say hehehehe

BTW a few yrs ago, fastest time Cl7r at Sepang clocked by A2 with spoon leh hehehehe
Thanks bro for the advice... i was in doubt about getting the A2 or A3 cams.. seems like A2 cams is good for street race then.. i heard it has low, mid and top end all together while A3 there is no low and mid end... but top end is good..
A3 no low and mid?? tink tuner no good hahahaha remember dont tune for max power at high end cos u will lose the low and mid, doesnt matter what cam...

no good tuner? so Joel is not a good tuner? he say A2 cam is better than A3, he say that mid of A3 is not that good as A2..

Wayan · Post by **Wayan** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:04 am

tried A2..

i'd stick to A3

Waterbottle · Post by **Waterbottle** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:10 am

Wayan wrote:tried A2..

i'd stick to A3

Hi. When u installed A2, did u also installed hondata or aftermarket ecu?
I was told for A2 dun need. A3 need.
Thks.

Wayan · Post by **Wayan** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:28 am

Waterbottle wrote:
Wayan wrote:tried A2..

i'd stick to A3
Hi. When u installed A2, did u also installed hondata or aftermarket ecu?
I was told for A2 dun need. A3 need.
Thks.

sorry bro..the A2 was on another car..similiar set up. Dono wether ECU-ed or not. and YES my A3 is running from Hondata

hifi1 · Post by **hifi1** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:13 pm

Bluecomet wrote:
hifi1 wrote:
Bluecomet wrote: Thanks bro for the advice... i was in doubt about getting the A2 or A3 cams.. seems like A2 cams is good for street race then.. i heard it has low, mid and top end all together while A3 there is no low and mid end... but top end is good..
A3 no low and mid?? tink tuner no good hahahaha remember dont tune for max power at high end cos u will lose the low and mid, doesnt matter what cam...
no good tuner? so Joel is not a good tuner? he say A2 cam is better than A3, he say that mid of A3 is not that good as A2..

sighhh every cam has its application, it depends on wat u want. Stock cam oso veri good, just get Hondata oso can. I am speaking from experience, heck the first 5 sets of A3 cams all sold to friends driving R, prob the first 10 guys that Joel tune all my fnds, from unfamiliar to familiar to 'expert', still who can say wat is good and wat is not? Only u can becos u are driver.

Even for Joel , he uses diff maps for same cam, depending on ur preference. thats why some car dyno 250bhp, some 280! Of course if u have no special demand, then prob the common map that works for others works for u.

so from ur comment, Joel said A3 mid not as good as A2? How aby low of A3 against A2, high of A3 against A2? All using Hondata? How abt other ECU? Motec perhaps??

U are rite, A2 better, doesnt affect me, heck if everyone think A2 better, good for me easier for me to sell next time

A2 best hurray