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All New MPV from Honda... Freed

Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:58 am

Before I post more info / background on this one, let see if anyone can guess it size correctly... :) (Don't cheat ok?)

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Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:56 am

OK, more pictures for you to judge it size...

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Stay tune for the interior photo shots... :)

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Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:30 pm

Interior shots, as promised...

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Size and specifications to come later, or anyone interested to make a guess??

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Re: All New MPV from Honda... Freed

Post by mt88 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:39 pm

carbon82 wrote:Before I post more info / background on this one, let see if anyone can guess it size correctly... :) (Don't cheat ok?)
Replacement of Honda Mobilo based on current Fit/City/Airwave platform.

May I know what is the prize? :lol:

Long time no see bro ;)

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Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:56 pm

mt88,

OK, you got it right, but sorry no prize. And here is a photo which will give you an idea just how compact is this 8-seater MPV... :shock:

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Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:25 pm

Launch Date: 29 May 2008 (in Japan)

Available with 3 seating configuration: 5 pax (2 row) / 7 pax (3 row with captain seat on 2nd row) / 8 pax (3 row with bench seat on 2nd & 3rd row)

Price: 5 seat version to be price around that of entry level Airwave, while 7 / seat version around that of entry level Stream

External Dimension: 4,215mm (L) x 1,695mm (W) x 1,715mm (H)
Wheelbase: 2,700mm
Engine Type: 1.5L SOHC i-VTEC (L15A)
Engine Capacity: 1,496cc
Max. Horsepower: 118ps / 6,600rpm
Max. Torque: 142Nm (14.4Kgm) / 4,800rpm
Transmission: Auto - CVT
Fuel Consumption (Japan 10-15 Mode): 16.4Km/L (Base model)

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Post by tazster_t » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:39 pm

wow.. to haul such a large mass.. from a 1.5L engine and yet yield 16/5km.l.. tat's impressive.

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Post by carbon82 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:51 pm

tazster_t wrote:wow.. to haul such a large mass.. from a 1.5L engine and yet yield 16/5km.l.. tat's impressive.
Well that is what I thought too. If it can perform up to what the spec says, then this might well be the next best seller after Stream, especially now that fuel price is sky high. For those that think otherwise, look at how Toyota Sienta fair in Singapore... ... 8)

Ask around and many MPV are driven at less than 50% load 90% of the time, so a 1.5L MPV might be a more practical choice in time to come. Of course, if you are a frequent road warrior up north (visiting Genting & Cameron HL especially), better to look elsewhere. :lol:

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Post by nextreal » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:40 pm

Nice! May consider to downgrade to this one since my 3rd row seats were used only once a month nowadays. More wallet friendly as well.

Think it would be below $65k? How much is the Sienta now?
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Post by tazster_t » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:43 pm

ya.. and fuel prices are not going down anymore..

I always felt diesel is the answer.. lower emissions.. more torque.. better FC.. but it being a cheaper fuel.. i dun think the govt will let it go tat easily.. sure got dunno wat levies and taxes to go along..


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tazster_t wrote:wow.. to haul such a large mass.. from a 1.5L engine and yet yield 16/5km.l.. tat's impressive.
Well that is what I thought too. If it can perform up to what the spec says, then this might well be the next best seller after Stream, especially now that fuel price is sky high. For those that think otherwise, look at how Toyota Sienta fair in Singapore... ... 8)

Ask around and many MPV are driven at less than 50% load 90% of the time, so a 1.5L MPV might be a more practical choice in time to come. Of course, if you are a frequent road warrior up north (visiting Genting & Cameron HL especially), better to look elsewhere. :lol:

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Post by mt88 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:43 pm

Cute small mpv. Dont really like the back (reminds me of ractis). This will compete with Sienta. We shall wait if Honda can price it competitively

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Post by carbon82 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:27 am

nextreal wrote:Nice! May consider to downgrade to this one since my 3rd row seats were used only once a month nowadays. More wallet friendly as well.

Think it would be below $65k? How much is the Sienta now?
From 2.4L to 1.5L, you sure or not?! :?

BTW, Sienta is now selling at ~$62K for basic model (1.5 "X") to ~$70K for the option pack model (1.5 "G").

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Post by carbon82 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:39 am

tazster_t wrote:ya.. and fuel prices are not going down anymore..

I always felt diesel is the answer.. lower emissions.. more torque.. better FC.. but it being a cheaper fuel.. i dun think the govt will let it go tat easily.. sure got dunno wat levies and taxes to go along..
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I use to be in favor of diesel engine for what you have mentioned, but now that pump price for diesel is no longer cheap (it is actually more expensive in some countries due to higher demand than petrol), not much saving even if the govt lower the diesel tax.

Have you notice that there are actually more MPVs with engine capacity lesser than 1.8L being brought to our shore? Daihatsu Extol, Suzuki APV, Toyota Sienta, Honda Mobilio, the various made-in China panel van turned MPV (mostly with only 1.1L - 1.3L engine under the bonnet)... ...

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Post by carbon82 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:54 am

mt88 wrote:Cute small mpv. Dont really like the back (reminds me of ractis). This will compete with Sienta. We shall wait if Honda can price it competitively
Finally you mention about it look. I find it more like the boxy bB than Ractis from the rear.

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At first look, the whole car (from the front) reminds me of the Mercedes-Benz A-Class based Vaneo mini MPV, which was not sold here.

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But having seen more shots of it, it look much like a shrunk Stepwagon, except for the front, which now seems like a cross between Estima & Mazda 5 (see the Modulo version of Freed).

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Post by carbon82 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:01 pm

For those that wonder how Honda engineer squeeze 3 people in the last row, which in most mid size MPV, is only 1.0m wide, the trick is bench seat over rear wheel well, as seen below.

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But with such design, the last row can not longer be folded and hiden in the floor, so it has to be hang!!

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Note: Pictures shown here are for Freed bigger brother, Stepwagon

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