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Post by EKen4 » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:26 am

siewss wrote:My India trip's not too bad, actually. It was an eye opener. The way they drive and incessant sounding of horn, the locals are really daytona drivers in disguise. They don't signal, swerve in and out between cars and trucks and buses (not to mention bullock, donkey and camel carts), ride in the center of 2 lanes, tailgate, brake/swerve/turn at the last minute, and the famous flashing of headlights and horning - All these will make our Singaporean drivers very tame by any yardstick. To think that we always complain about our cabbies. I tell you, driving in India will raise our blood pressure many mmHg. For your post-grad holidays, pls avoid India. US may be a good idea, if the exchange rate is around 1.67. Euro and Aussie's
pretty high, so our Sing dollar won't go very far.

Oh, I wouldn't blame it on luck. I should have seen it coming because I had this nagging feeling prices may drop further. I didn't bother attributing my feelings to any potential policy changes, hence my situation. I think I mentioned earlier I set a goal to make my purchase only when the COE goes below S$20k, but I went against my better judgement. Anyway, the price has crept up to S$101.5k with the recent increase in COE, but I'm not sure if the price will continue to sustain at that level.

Are you also trying out jobs in your area of specialisation? Joining the car industries' good, but exposure to different industries will put you in better stead for the future. Make sure you you join the dealership that sells the brand you like. Perhaps you can extend your staff rate to me as well, haha!

Sure, lunch sounds like a good idea. Will let you know when the car arrives. I was persuaded to go for the frontlip for an additional S$600. My SE says it's a bargain. I'm still half decided because S$600 is no small bean for plastics. I think I'll be much better off with v-kool or huperoptik for that money.
haha! Sounds like a warzone there on India's roads! Guess we really have to appreciate what we have on our roads now, unless we start comparing them to Australia's or even KL's. Think many of our drivers got a lot to catch up on...

I have actually shortlisted Tokyo, Perth, Cairns and Melbourne. But because of bird flu, I reckon Tokyo will be dropped out of our list. So that leaves the Australian states. I really missed the holidays I had in Gold Coast and Sydney.

I'm keeping my options opened to jobs within my area of studies too, though my priorities will be on the automotive industry. However, i also realise the downsides of staying out of the real estate industry for too long a period. But well, I hope I can carve out something for myself, good enough to have me remain close to my interests.

I think $600 is a rather high price to pay, considering it should be made in thailand, and respraying a piece of small plastics shouldn't take more than $200. KM is asking for the sky once again. Why don't you try checking with Tanly Motors? They do bring in accessories, and you can approach a spray paint shop that you know.

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Post by bobaccord » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:29 am

hi cheers

wow... nice! i kinda prefer non-wood trims now....

do u noe where we can get our hands on this? how much?

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Post by siewss » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:47 am

bobaccord wrote:Hi siewss

Actually india is really a nice place... but in May, u r right, the weather can kill and cook our bodies...

S korea? i will be there on the 3rd week of March, hopefully it will not crash with my taking of the new car... i will be at the cheju islands for some meetings....

i m not sure if my car can arrive in 1 to 2 weeks' time, my SE says it is earliest end march or mid early april... but u r right, the build up of the anticiaption is really good... it a loooooooooong wait since January...

My fren is getting his 2.0 KM accord only this month, will check with him when i go to KL at the end of the month... i heard the price of the 2 litre is RM138, 000 and the 2.4l version is RM159, 000.

I m not sure whether KM will allow us to change the beige mat to black. black is certainly more practical, but beige blends well with our accord interior, if not, then i will probably buy the black one in BKK next month, but only after I get my accord first. it is certainly cheaper there. Let me noe whether you can get yours change to black.. but i m not sure if the color blends with our interior.

After all the discussion on the frontlip, i finally decided not to change, as i think the original front looks good enough.. for the SGD600, i will be using it to drive to KL this June for holidays with my family...

I hv seen the new Mazda 3... quite chio...but is it a fast car? compare to our Accord? how abt the Mazda 6 2.3? is it fast as well?

BTW, what do you think of the new Cefiro 2.3? is this kind of car something you will consider? I seen motoring magazine's review between this and our accord and they seem to put Cefiro in a better position overall...


If i don get my keys before 21 March, then i can only get it after 6 april, as i will be travelling again...

looking forward (since january) for my maiden trip of accord!!!!

I would rather give India a miss. I think Sri Lanka may actually be a better place to visit. If at all I go in May, I got to make sure that the car air conditioning works. I will be in China (Beijing, ShenZhen, GuangZhou) this Sunday for a total of 5 days. At least the food will be more palatable than the North and South Indian cuisines.

Well, you still have your old corona if you don't collect your car in March. I'm sure KM will keep it in pristine condition for you till you're back. Mine is slated for mid to end Apr. I'd like to finish running in the car before the June holidays. Like yourself, I have plans to drive to Malaysia for a holiday with my family. It'll probably be Sunway Lagoon and Trengganu. I read an article about driving on the east coast trunk road - very scenic and meandering, just nice for experiencing the full potential of the accord, methink.

I think the 2.0 Accord is reasonable priced. RM21k more seems like a lot to ask for another 400cc. But perhaps the equipment list also goes up, so no point griping. For us paying RM223,000 for the 2.4 is actually not too bad, since that includes the COE. On the other hand, another of my Malaysian friend got a Volvo T5 for RM240,000.

I'm not sure if KM will allow the change in mat color either. It's just that after seeing all the marks and stains on my friends' beige mat, and multiplying that by 3 because I have 3 kids vs his 1, the black mat suddenly seems like a very wise option. The black shouldn't look too out of place because our black accord interior comes in both black and beige tone.
If you're going to BKK, pls help to check the price out. I think I may stick to the beige and change to a black (3rd party) set if the cleaning saps my energy. I think I'll forgo the frontlip too. I'm quite inclined to go for the huperoptik package for S$450.

Mazda 3 fast? No. In fact, I would put it down as sluggish. The car's heavy and I think the engine's not rev-willing. But handling's good and taking fast sweep certainly inspires confidence. But in the looks department, I would say they reign supreme. Mazda 6 2.3 is fast. I would say they perform equal or better than the accord, with one exception, the engine's gruff at high rpm. Cefiro 2.3, it's a good car, but yawn...will suit me like a square peg in a round hole. Too stately and gentlemenly. Not my idea of a dynamic car. Have I mentioned starched shirt and mustachio? (no offence meant)

Did I mention that many of my colleagues rushed in after our DPM announced the PARF cut? None of them got the car from the last bid. The dealers refused to bid high even though the margin for them is roughly the same. Nevertheless, that has not detered my colleagues from going in again for another round. Everybody's eager to enjoy a slice of low car prices.

BTW, what do you think of the new Cefiro 2.3? is this kind of car something you will consider? I seen motoring magazine's review between this and our accord and they seem to put Cefiro in a better position overall...
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Re: Honda Accord

Post by siewss » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:17 am

Warzone's just the right description. Reminds me of MadMax... This morning I was driving along Pasir Panjang road in a moderate downpour. I overtook a Malaysian Toyota Unser (nondescript 7 seater) on the right. He swung to the right lane after I passed him and followed behind me. As I approach the traffic junction that turns into the Pasir Panjang wholesaler market, the light turned amber and I went past. The Unser driver, probably seeing the red light camera, decided to stop. In the rear view mirror, I would see the Unser slowing down when it suddenly swerve to the right, and the right front wheel clipped the right kerb past the junction, swings back to the left and lumbered across the 3 lanes, mounted the kerb on the left side of the road and disappeared into the bushes. All these seemed to happen in slow motion. I was so shock to see a modern vehicle go out of control this way. Thankfully, the driver's OK, because I could see the back of the vehicle sticking out from the bushes, and I was sure the car didn't knock into anything harder than itself. The last time I saw a car going out of control at slow speed was an old Nissan Pulsar (100A) and an even older volkswagon beetle. They just spun around in circle for no apparent reason on dry road.

Tokyo's a good place to visit in Apr (I think it's the cherry blossom season). Australia's good too, except that the AUD's too strong. It's a country you'll enjoy more if you drive.

I know of someone who joined Borneo motors. He sells 20 cars a month without lifting a finger (ok, I exaggerate). Toyota cars almost always sells itself. Imagine a commission of about S$800 per car, and you get an idea why we see more nostril hair than widespread welcome arms. So if you're thinking of this line, it's good money, but make sure it sells volume runners.

Thanks for your advice. I'll go Tanly motors one of these days. Right now I'm just too tied up with work and family to do anything else. But I'll do it one of these days before my car arrives.



I'm keeping my options opened to jobs within my area of studies too, though my priorities will be on the automotive industry. However, i also realise the downsides of staying out of the real estate industry for too long a period. But well, I hope I can carve out something for myself, good enough to have me remain close to my interests.

I think $600 is a rather high price to pay, considering it should be made in thailand, and respraying a piece of small plastics shouldn't take more than $200. KM is asking for the sky once again. Why don't you try checking with Tanly Motors? They do bring in accessories, and you can approach a spray paint shop that you know.[/quote]
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Re: Honda Accord

Post by EKen4 » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:19 am

siewss wrote:Warzone's just the right description. Reminds me of MadMax... This morning I was driving along Pasir Panjang road in a moderate downpour. I overtook a Malaysian Toyota Unser (nondescript 7 seater) on the right. He swung to the right lane after I passed him and followed behind me. As I approach the traffic junction that turns into the Pasir Panjang wholesaler market, the light turned amber and I went past. The Unser driver, probably seeing the red light camera, decided to stop. In the rear view mirror, I would see the Unser slowing down when it suddenly swerve to the right, and the right front wheel clipped the right kerb past the junction, swings back to the left and lumbered across the 3 lanes, mounted the kerb on the left side of the road and disappeared into the bushes. All these seemed to happen in slow motion. I was so shock to see a modern vehicle go out of control this way. Thankfully, the driver's OK, because I could see the back of the vehicle sticking out from the bushes, and I was sure the car didn't knock into anything harder than itself. The last time I saw a car going out of control at slow speed was an old Nissan Pulsar (100A) and an even older volkswagon beetle. They just spun around in circle for no apparent reason on dry road.

Tokyo's a good place to visit in Apr (I think it's the cherry blossom season). Australia's good too, except that the AUD's too strong. It's a country you'll enjoy more if you drive.

I know of someone who joined Borneo motors. He sells 20 cars a month without lifting a finger (ok, I exaggerate). Toyota cars almost always sells itself. Imagine a commission of about S$800 per car, and you get an idea why we see more nostril hair than widespread welcome arms. So if you're thinking of this line, it's good money, but make sure it sells volume runners.

Thanks for your advice. I'll go Tanly motors one of these days. Right now I'm just too tied up with work and family to do anything else. But I'll do it one of these days before my car arrives.
Most probably these cars spun due to worn-out tyres, or inappropriate road tyres. It's really baffling reading about cars spinning out on normal road conditions. It's not as if they are driving high-powered rear-wheel drive cars or what....

Think my dad still have some AUD he changed while the rates were still low. So I may just borrow some from him. haha! You are most right about the driving part. I so much enjoyed the V8s and the V6s engines i drove there, i found it very difficult to readapt to my 4 cylinder engine when i got back. And not forgetting the many farms and wineyards we went to. What an eye-opener for an urban kid like me!

I'm actually not looking forward to a sales job. Most probably product or marketing would be my cup of tea. I wouldn't rule out doing some basic groundwork before i get to management though.

hmm... perhaps if i need to go down for some spare parts, i will help you ask too? I shall let you know here if i have anything.

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Post by bobaccord » Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:30 pm

it's nice driving along the east coast trunk road.. i did it last year on my way to Kuantan (Hyatt hotel)... the road conditions are much better than 10 years ago. And with out Accord, u will definitely have a fun time overtaking the tons of trucks, 18-wheelers and even cow cart... i may drive to the MINES resort this JUne, and test out my Accord... should finish my 1000K mileage before that....

for the mat, i will keep the beige until it becomes horribly dirty... then i will switch to the HOnda black color. btw, i don't think KM will give us the nice mats that we see on the online shop, am I right? i think they r only giving us normal mats... can check with your SE. I will buy it from Thailand, will let u know the price...


Never like Cefiro... the previous model is very ah peh version. cannot deny the engine is good, but the award engine is actually 3 litre and not 2 litre... the car is also much heavier and 0-100 takes 10.7 secs... i always prefer performance cars (not the heavy duty ones like WRX or evo kind), even the E200, unless it is E240, is not impressive... even with the kompressor... my brother loves the CEFIRO... use to own one, but now driving a BM320 brand new...

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Post by siewss » Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:02 pm

That's probably one of the main reason. I have skidded a few times, but almost always in a straight line - E-braking, and kissing a few backsides in the process. The only time I skidded sideways was with my Chariot, but it wobbled and shake before losing it's grip. ABS is really a great invention. I'm not sure if the Unser comes with it. But one thing's for sure, I won't compromise on tyres, though I still treasure comfort to outright grip.

Your good old dad again. Well, better get him a bottle of really good wine for the exchange rate you're offering, or are you borrowing? I made a little bit from forex but it does look like the AUD has peaked. Enjoy yourselves. In US, you can get a Mustang convertible for about US$45 per day. I'm sure you can get pretty good cars for that price in Aus. I realise most people go for Japanese cars like Camry and Maxima when they are in Australia, and I think they do it for good reason. V8 is good when petrol cost S$0.50 to a liter. Are you thinking of a farmstay also? I've never been to Australia, but I was in New Zealand 10 years ago, and the constant scenery of hills, meadows, brooks and sheep never failed to induce me into a slumber the moment the coach move. It was certainly an eye opener for me, but I made up my mind never to go New Zealand again.

Oh I see, I thought you would prefer the sales job. That's where the money is actually, and it commensurate with the hours you put in. Marketing may be more prestigious, but you'll see the sales people living in the posher condos. But oh well, I'm not in sales either, and I see my sales colleagues getting 20% more from bonuses each year, and lots of them own Toyota Harriers (aka Lexus RX).

Well, if you happen to go down to Tanly, do help me check the price of the frontlip. I'd like to get some essential stuff for the car if the prices are far below that of KMs. Thanks.
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Post by siewss » Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:59 pm

bobaccord wrote:it's nice driving along the east coast trunk road.. i did it last year on my way to Kuantan (Hyatt hotel)... the road conditions are much better than 10 years ago. And with out Accord, u will definitely have a fun time overtaking the tons of trucks, 18-wheelers and even cow cart... i may drive to the MINES resort this JUne, and test out my Accord... should finish my 1000K mileage before that....

for the mat, i will keep the beige until it becomes horribly dirty... then i will switch to the HOnda black color. btw, i don't think KM will give us the nice mats that we see on the online shop, am I right? i think they r only giving us normal mats... can check with your SE. I will buy it from Thailand, will let u know the price...


Never like Cefiro... the previous model is very ah peh version. cannot deny the engine is good, but the award engine is actually 3 litre and not 2 litre... the car is also much heavier and 0-100 takes 10.7 secs... i always prefer performance cars (not the heavy duty ones like WRX or evo kind), even the E200, unless it is E240, is not impressive... even with the kompressor... my brother loves the CEFIRO... use to own one, but now driving a BM320 brand new...
Yeah, it's a waste driving along the NS highway. I use to drive my dad's Mazda 626 long time back using the trunk roads. It was fun but the car was so seriously lacking in horsepower I almost got the whole family (fahter, mother, sister, brother) killed during one of the overtaking maneuvres. 3rd gear, stamp on the gas, swing to the opposite lane, proceed to overtake, and no forward motion. The bus came from the opposite direction, not yielding and definitely not slowing down. I had to jam on the brakes, and swung wildly back behind the vehicle I intended to overtake, and in the process waking everyone up from their sleep, and thank God for that. If not they will be grumbling and nagging all the way back to Singapore. But now, more than a decade later, I relish the thought of driving along the trunk road again, so east coast seems ideal. Kuantuan sounds nice, but I would want to go Trengganu, because I understand the beaches there are amongst the best in Malaysia. Will you be putting up at Palace of the Golden Horses when you're in Mines? Their service quality sucks, if I may say so, and I had a lemon of a suite - The aircon doesn't work and the balcony door does open. Thankfully, we spent most of our time in Sunway Lagoon.

I would think KM will give us the original mat, considering that the car is relatively high end. Don't think they will give us off-the-shelves. If the one in BKK cost about a hundred, help me get a set. But judging from the price of the frontlip, fog lamps, I think it's highly unlikely the prices can be that low.

I think the Cefiro (previous and current) wouldn't appeal if you're looking for a sporty ride. They are designed to look big and grand. My friend who's driving one complain about the unquenchable thirst. The interior actually has a lot of parts taken from the Sunny bin, including the instrument cluster. The size helps it to sell. If I rank the 3 large Jap saloons in order of merit, it would be Accord - Camry - Cerfiro. Maybe you should have gone for the 3.0 Accord for the extra performance, since it's only S$20k more. That time, you'll be in the top 5% of all vehicles in terms of performance. Cruising at 200kmh will finally come true, and for that price, you almost outgun any BMW on the cheaper side of a 525. Drove a Chevrolet 3.0L in the states 5 years ago, it performed like a 2.0L and worse, the car floats at speed above 70mph. So not all big capacity cars drive well.
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Post by EKen4 » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:59 am

That has got to be the tyres' problem. I used to have Falken ZIEX 502 on my family's old Honda City (non-ABS). I skidded from the traffic lights right up to the yellow box, and the tyres lost grip when i was trying to move off a slope in heavy downpour. I also think tyres are most important. They are one component of the car I would never stinge on.

haha! I inherited the allergy to alcohol from him, so the wine-drinking culture is non-existent in my family. You think the AUD has peaked too? I have been trying to convince my dad so, but he wouldn't let go. Thinks he wants the interest more than he wants the profits. For about 150AUD, you can get a GS300. The V8 Ford Falcon and the V6 Mitsubishi Magma cost about 75AUD a day. Interestingly, the Falcon sips petrol while the Magma gulped it down like a thirsty camel! I was so surprised! We wanted to get a Camry, but too bad all were rented out, so we settled for the Magma instead. Farmstays would be nice, but they are all too far away from the city. You know girls, they want shopping. haha! Why wouldn't you want to return to New Zealand again? Too boring?

I agree sales is more lucrative. I just had to recall how much the ERA agents were taking in, and I couldn't agree more. Guess I should really keep my options open.

Sure thing. Anyway, Tanly's prices are way lower than KM's most of the time, if not all the time. Shall let you know if I'm going there.
siewss wrote:That's probably one of the main reason. I have skidded a few times, but almost always in a straight line - E-braking, and kissing a few backsides in the process. The only time I skidded sideways was with my Chariot, but it wobbled and shake before losing it's grip. ABS is really a great invention. I'm not sure if the Unser comes with it. But one thing's for sure, I won't compromise on tyres, though I still treasure comfort to outright grip.

Your good old dad again. Well, better get him a bottle of really good wine for the exchange rate you're offering, or are you borrowing? I made a little bit from forex but it does look like the AUD has peaked. Enjoy yourselves. In US, you can get a Mustang convertible for about US$45 per day. I'm sure you can get pretty good cars for that price in Aus. I realise most people go for Japanese cars like Camry and Maxima when they are in Australia, and I think they do it for good reason. V8 is good when petrol cost S$0.50 to a liter. Are you thinking of a farmstay also? I've never been to Australia, but I was in New Zealand 10 years ago, and the constant scenery of hills, meadows, brooks and sheep never failed to induce me into a slumber the moment the coach move. It was certainly an eye opener for me, but I made up my mind never to go New Zealand again.

Oh I see, I thought you would prefer the sales job. That's where the money is actually, and it commensurate with the hours you put in. Marketing may be more prestigious, but you'll see the sales people living in the posher condos. But oh well, I'm not in sales either, and I see my sales colleagues getting 20% more from bonuses each year, and lots of them own Toyota Harriers (aka Lexus RX).

Well, if you happen to go down to Tanly, do help me check the price of the frontlip. I'd like to get some essential stuff for the car if the prices are far below that of KMs. Thanks.

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Post by EKen4 » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:09 am

siewss wrote:Will you be putting up at Palace of the Golden Horses when you're in Mines? Their service quality sucks, if I may say so, and I had a lemon of a suite - The aircon doesn't work and the balcony door does open. Thankfully, we spent most of our time in Sunway Lagoon.
I just came back from the Palace of the Golden Horses last Dec. But the service quality I received was very much on the contrary.

I missed the shuttle service from the KTM station back to the hotel, by about 5 mins. I called back to the hotel, only to confirm if the bus has indeed left, and the next service will arrive only 1 hour later. It was about 9pm already. Much to our surprise, one of the staff drove out his private car to bring us back to the hotel! We found the rest of the staff extremely courteous too, and my gf and I actually felt that their service quality actually approaches that of Singapore's Ritz-Carlton! No joke!

When did you go? Perhaps they did a major review of their service quality, and improved tremendously when I was there?

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Post by siewss » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:31 pm

EKen4 wrote:
siewss wrote:Will you be putting up at Palace of the Golden Horses when you're in Mines? Their service quality sucks, if I may say so, and I had a lemon of a suite - The aircon doesn't work and the balcony door does open. Thankfully, we spent most of our time in Sunway Lagoon.
I just came back from the Palace of the Golden Horses last Dec. But the service quality I received was very much on the contrary.

I missed the shuttle service from the KTM station back to the hotel, by about 5 mins. I called back to the hotel, only to confirm if the bus has indeed left, and the next service will arrive only 1 hour later. It was about 9pm already. Much to our surprise, one of the staff drove out his private car to bring us back to the hotel! We found the rest of the staff extremely courteous too, and my gf and I actually felt that their service quality actually approaches that of Singapore's Ritz-Carlton! No joke!

When did you go? Perhaps they did a major review of their service quality, and improved tremendously when I was there?
I'm surprised. We were there in Dec 2002 and stayed for 3 nights. Cost us RM1900. We were alloted a room that faced the driveway, so we asked for one with a better view. They gave us 1 with the bedroom facing the lake and the study facing the toll booths along the highway. So we thought that wasn't too bad, and we took it. The manager who arranged it helped us in shifting. He asked me if I'm from Singapore, and after that in a condescending tone told me that I'm staying in a small suite and that there are many rich locals who stay in bigger suites. He was trying to imply that I was troublesome and fussy for a guest who's not staying in their executive suite. After shifting to the new room, we realised that the aircon conked out, and of course we complained, and it was many hours later before they got the aircon fixed. Then the aircon started leaking water, leaving a patch on the carpet. We noticed that the bathroom was crawling with ants, and again we complained. They replied that it's normal. We had to put up with long faces everytime we go for breakfast when we asked for baby chair. That's enough Palaces for me for a lifetime. I'm glad you experienced good service though. You must have met one of their more exceptional guest.
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Re: Honda Accord

Post by siewss » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:17 pm

[quote="EKen4"]That has got to be the tyres' problem. I used to have Falken ZIEX 502 on my family's old Honda City (non-ABS). I skidded from the traffic lights right up to the yellow box, and the tyres lost grip when i was trying to move off a slope in heavy downpour. I also think tyres are most important. They are one component of the car I would never stinge on.

haha! I inherited the allergy to alcohol from him, so the wine-drinking culture is non-existent in my family. You think the AUD has peaked too? I have been trying to convince my dad so, but he wouldn't let go. Thinks he wants the interest more than he wants the profits. For about 150AUD, you can get a GS300. The V8 Ford Falcon and the V6 Mitsubishi Magma cost about 75AUD a day. Interestingly, the Falcon sips petrol while the Magma gulped it down like a thirsty camel! I was so surprised! We wanted to get a Camry, but too bad all were rented out, so we settled for the Magma instead. Farmstays would be nice, but they are all too far away from the city. You know girls, they want shopping. haha! Why wouldn't you want to return to New Zealand again? Too boring?

I agree sales is more lucrative. I just had to recall how much the ERA agents were taking in, and I couldn't agree more. Guess I should really keep my options open.

Sure thing. Anyway, Tanly's prices are way lower than KM's most of the time, if not all the time. Shall let you know if I'm going there.

I've always stuck to Bridgestone, Pirelli and Michelin. So far they seem to meet my standard. I think the accord comes with Yokohama, not a brand that I fancy. I'll switch over when the time comes.

I don't take well to alcohol too, and I think that as a blessing. Save a bundle too. AUD is actually on the way down in the past 2 days. I lost almost S$1000 in like 10 hours. Really disheartening. I'm not even sure where it's headed now. Cut loses or hold on? That's the million dollar question. Maybe you should rent the Honda Accord, yeah? But maybe you're already tired of Honda. 75AUD is not cheap at all. That cost as much as the hotel rates. Anyway, I'm sure when I'll get to go Aus, and now that I've lost money, it'll be a while before I indulge in holiday overseas. New Zealand bored me to tears. I couldn't believe I paid so much to visit what is basically a giant farm.

Is Tanly in Bendemeer? I'll drop by after I come back from China. Meanwhile, if you're paying them a visit, pls check for me the price of the frontlip and the mat. My SE say the beige mat comes standard with beige upholstry.

My colleague tried for the Matrix again, and got it for S$59k using open cat COE. <S$5k depreciation per year - really good deal. Could have almost gotten 2 cars for the price of my accord.
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Post by EKen4 » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:24 am

siewss wrote:I'm surprised. We were there in Dec 2002 and stayed for 3 nights. Cost us RM1900. We were alloted a room that faced the driveway, so we asked for one with a better view. They gave us 1 with the bedroom facing the lake and the study facing the toll booths along the highway. So we thought that wasn't too bad, and we took it. The manager who arranged it helped us in shifting. He asked me if I'm from Singapore, and after that in a condescending tone told me that I'm staying in a small suite and that there are many rich locals who stay in bigger suites. He was trying to imply that I was troublesome and fussy for a guest who's not staying in their executive suite. After shifting to the new room, we realised that the aircon conked out, and of course we complained, and it was many hours later before they got the aircon fixed. Then the aircon started leaking water, leaving a patch on the carpet. We noticed that the bathroom was crawling with ants, and again we complained. They replied that it's normal. We had to put up with long faces everytime we go for breakfast when we asked for baby chair. That's enough Palaces for me for a lifetime. I'm glad you experienced good service though. You must have met one of their more exceptional guest.
wow! what a bad experience you had! I simply detest this kind of attitude by the service industry! To be frank with you, we stayed in the most basic room, which faced the driveway. We didn't even pay the premium for a lakeview suite. Think if I had gone there during 2002, I should have received even worse service! I count my lucky stars we did not have to contend with such appaling service when we were there.

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Re: Honda Accord

Post by EKen4 » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:39 am

siewss wrote:I've always stuck to Bridgestone, Pirelli and Michelin. So far they seem to meet my standard. I think the accord comes with Yokohama, not a brand that I fancy. I'll switch over when the time comes.

I don't take well to alcohol too, and I think that as a blessing. Save a bundle too. AUD is actually on the way down in the past 2 days. I lost almost S$1000 in like 10 hours. Really disheartening. I'm not even sure where it's headed now. Cut loses or hold on? That's the million dollar question. Maybe you should rent the Honda Accord, yeah? But maybe you're already tired of Honda. 75AUD is not cheap at all. That cost as much as the hotel rates. Anyway, I'm sure when I'll get to go Aus, and now that I've lost money, it'll be a while before I indulge in holiday overseas. New Zealand bored me to tears. I couldn't believe I paid so much to visit what is basically a giant farm.

Is Tanly in Bendemeer? I'll drop by after I come back from China. Meanwhile, if you're paying them a visit, pls check for me the price of the frontlip and the mat. My SE say the beige mat comes standard with beige upholstry.

My colleague tried for the Matrix again, and got it for S$59k using open cat COE. <S$5k depreciation per year - really good deal. Could have almost gotten 2 cars for the price of my accord.
I agree that Bridgestones are tyres which we pay for what we get. They are usually more costly, but they are worth the prices too. I used to have a set of Pirellis P-Zeros. They were reasonably good performers, but I found them over-rated in the wet. I have not used Michelins before though. I agree at times, Yokohamas do not really perform up to expectations, as was with the ES100 which i used for only about 6 months before i decided the lack of dry grip was simply too bad. It was very good in the wet though, especially in its ability to disperse puddles of water. I'm now on Yokohamas Advan Neovas though, excellent in the dry and commendable in the wet, but they are not tyres suitable for the luxurious Accord though; the noise levels are rather high.

Disappointingly, the Aussies do not favour Hondas in general. None of the rental companys had Hondas as options. Honda seems to suffer from a very bad image there. Their favourite brand there is Toyota and Ford. I even tried getting a Holden, but too bad they weren't for rent as well. 75AUD is just about the minimum I would pay. Anything lower, and we could only get an entry level Hyundai Accent, not a car I want to travel hundreds of km with. haha! New Zealand has never been high on the wish-list anyway.

Tanly is at Waterloo Street, very near to the famous Kwan Yin Temple.

I would think you have a better buy in the Accord. $ for comfort, $ for performance, $ for practicality, the Accord wins hands down. haha!

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Post by steppy » Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:47 am

Hi SiewSS - Great to see you taking the thread from the old forum to here. I am now known as Steppy..Have been very busy with business trips and just got back from Thailand.... And I do have the confirmed prices of the kits from onr of the shops in thailand...here it is:-

Fog lights pair - B12,150 - S$528
rear spolier - B6,277 - S$272
front spoiler - B8480 - S$368
(ex rate S$1 = B23)

As you can see, the cost of the spoliers are really much more attractive when compared to the one sold here. However what i am not really sure is the finish of the spoilers....are they painted or we have to spray it ourselves? (I was too busy and forgot to get my assistant to ask!)

I am going up again end march......if we do a group buy, we maybe able to share the cost of frieght as well as secure a better deal for spray painting and installation!

Guys let me know!

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